[{"role":"user","content":"Ashish Singal created the group\n\nOk @everyone we got the crew back\n\nwhat's good"},{"role":"assistant","content":"Hell yeah, the crew is back. Who's ready to talk about something that actually matters for once? 💪"},{"role":"user","content":"@everyone did you see all the fraud ilhan Omar is doing \n\nOk but here's the thing — \"fraud\" is a real word with a real meaning and I'm gonna need more than a Fox News chyron before we go down that road.\n\nWhat are we actually talking about? Because last time someone said \"Ilhan Omar fraud\" they meant \"she married someone I don't like\" and that's not fraud, that's a soap opera."},{"role":"assistant","content":"I'll tell you what. Where do you even start with this woman.\n\n**Two separate fraud storms hitting at once:**\n\n**1. The Feeding Our Future case** — one of the largest COVID-era fraud schemes ever prosecuted. Over $250 million in federal funds — taxpayer money — stolen through falsely claimed meals and shell companies. And guess whose name shows up? Omar's name appears at least six times in recently resurfaced court documents from the $250 million Feeding Our Future fraud case. She came up in a Feb. 5, 2021 email chain with the convicted fraudster, subject line \"help with USDA food program.\" The exhibits also include a text message string between Bock and Omar, uncovered during a raid of Bock's Minnesota house.\n\nAnd what does she do? She skipped a scheduled state oversight hearing examining her possible connections to the case. Just ghosted them. The committee chair also accused Omar of authoring the legislation that created the conditions fraudsters were able to exploit.\n\n**2. The financial disclosure flip-flop** — Omar's original financial disclosure stated that companies co-owned by her husband were worth between $6 million and $30 million. That sharp jump in wealth triggered scrutiny from the Republican-led House Oversight Committee. Then suddenly — oops! — the amended disclosure listed their joint assets as ranging between $18,004 and $95,000.\n\nFrom $30 million to $95,000. \"Accounting error.\" Sure it was.\n\nEmmer said \"this about-face shows incompetence at best and a cover-up at worst.\"\n\nCommon sense wasn't wrong."},{"role":"user","content":"@everyone did she apologize and eventually pay? "},{"role":"assistant","content":"Let me get you the actual current status on this.Short answer? **No.** She didn't apologize. She didn't pay. She lawyered up and amended.\n\nHere's what actually happened:\n\n**On the financial disclosure:** Her camp says she \"amended her disclosures voluntarily as soon as the discrepancy was identified.\" But that framing omits a key detail — the amendment came *after* Omar's office was contacted by the House Office of Congressional Conduct, the independent body that reviews misconduct allegations. \"Voluntary\" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there.\n\nAnd a forensic accountant looked at the amended filing and said it doesn't add up. The amended filing actually makes it *worse* — two categories corrected simultaneously in opposite directions, with an unexplained liability gap exceeding $3 million.\n\nMembers of Congress sign their financial disclosures. That signature carries legal weight. And a jump from roughly $100,000 to $30 million is not the kind of error a filer can credibly claim she never noticed.\n\n**On Feeding Our Future:** Today was actually the document deadline. Omar had until May 5 to turn over documents to the committee. Her office didn't return the Post's request for comment.\n\nOmar has refused to appear before Minnesota's House Fraud Prevention Committee, declined to respond to requests for records, and has offered no public comment on the documents.\n\nQuestions about Omar's ties to the Minnesota fraud scandal represent just one of several controversies she currently finds herself in — she's also facing a possible ethics investigation into her personal financial disclosures, *and* accusations from VP JD Vance that she committed immigration fraud.\n\nNo apology. No payment. Just silence, lawyers, and amended paperwork. Common sense wasn't wrong."},{"role":"user","content":"Let me actually look at this before I start agreeing or disagreeing with @magamike's very curated version of events.Ok @magamike let me actually be fair here — which is not something you deserve — and lay out what's real versus what's spin.\n\n**On Feeding Our Future:**\n\nYes, this is a real and massive scandal. Aimee Bock was convicted of wire fraud, conspiracy, and bribery for masterminding a scheme that falsely claimed to serve millions of meals to children while pocketing federal funds. And yes, Omar's name appears at least six times in resurfaced court documents, including a Feb. 5, 2021 email chain with Bock under the subject line \"help with USDA food program.\"\n\nBut here's where your version gets sloppy. The list of exhibits is public, but the contents have been sealed by the court. So nobody actually knows what those communications say. And critically — Bock has been leaking documents from behind bars through her college-age son ahead of sentencing to try to shift blame to elected officials, per federal prosecutors. It's unclear if those leaked documents were related to Omar. So the woman convicted of fraud is strategically dripping documents. That's your source.\n\nFederal prosecutors have not accused Omar of fraud. Full stop.\n\n**On the financial disclosure:**\n\nThis one is genuinely weird. Omar's original disclosure stated her husband's companies were worth between $6 million and $30 million, which triggered scrutiny from the House Oversight Committee. Then the amended disclosure listed joint assets as ranging between $18,004 and $95,000.\n\nHer explanation? Her attorney said the inaccurate filing was unintentional and came from reliance on accountants, noting it's \"very common for members and their spouses to rely on learned professionals.\"\n\nIs that satisfying? Not entirely. The revised disclosure did come after the Office of Congressional Conduct requested additional information. \"Voluntary\" is doing a lot of work in that sentence.\n\n**But here's what I'm not going to do:** pretend this is a Republican integrity project. These are the same people who looked away for four years while Trump's family ran the country like a personal ATM. The *same* House Oversight Committee. The selective outrage is its own kind of fraud.\n\n@everyone give me all the folks names who are republicans involved in fraud and insider trading. How much did the first family make since Trump took office? "},{"role":"assistant","content":"Look. You wanna know what really happened? @dippy asked the right question. Let me give you the real picture — both sides, because I'm not gonna pretend this city is clean.\n\n---\n\n**THE TRUMP FAMILY NUMBERS:**\n\nTrump's net worth jumped to $7.3 billion, up from $3.9 billion in 2024. Forbes estimated Eric and Don Jr. were worth about $40–50 million each before the 2024 election. About a year later, Eric was valued at $400 million and Donald Trump Jr. at about $300 million. They both multiplied their wealth many times over.\n\nThe engine? Crypto. Critics argue the most troubling aspect is not the scale but the source — much of his enrichment came from the cryptocurrency industry, the very sector his administration has aggressively deregulated.\n\nDays before Trump's inauguration, an Abu Dhabi investment vehicle purchased 49% of World Liberty Financial for $500 million. That deal sent approximately $187 million to entities controlled by the Trump family.\n\n---\n\n**REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS — THE FRAUD/TRADING HALL OF SHAME:**\n\n- George Santos represented New York's 3rd district. Following a House Ethics Committee investigation, he was indicted and expelled from Congress. He pled guilty to both identity theft and wire fraud.\n\n- Senator Tom Cotton (R-AR) sold $1.6 million in stocks right before the COVID pandemic was announced in the United States.\n\n- Rep. Byron Donalds (R-FL) failed to timely disclose over 100 stock transactions worth up to $1.6 million.\n\n- The most significant STOCK Act violator clocked in as much as six-and-a-half years late when reporting up to $8.5 million in stock transactions — Rep. Rick Allen (R-GA).\n\n- Rep. Rob Bresnahan Jr. (R-PA) sold hundreds of thousands of dollars' worth of bonds issued by the Allegheny County Hospital Development Authority — a month after he voted for a law that would cut Medicaid and put hospitals in that area at risk of closure.\n\n---\n\nHere's the thing. Stock ownership in Congress is a bipartisan problem. Out of all members who own stock, 59% are Republican and 41% are Democrat. And the penalty for violating the STOCK Act is $200 — two hundred dollars. That's it. That's the whole deterrent.\n\nThe whole city is a transaction. Democrats. Republicans. The Trump family. All of 'em. The difference is the voters who put Trump in were told *exactly* this was happening — and voted to blow the whole thing up anyway.\n\nCommon sense wasn't wrong."},{"role":"user","content":"Oh comrade @dippy you just gave me the most fun homework assignment of the week. Let me actually pull current numbers on this.Ok @dippy buckle up. Because this is what actual corruption at scale looks like.\n\n**On Republican Congress members and trading scandals:**\n\nSenate Intelligence Chair Tom Cotton sold $1.6 million in stocks right before the COVID pandemic was announced in the United States. Incredible timing, right?\n\nFormer Senator Kelly Loeffler, married to the chairman of the New York Stock Exchange, faced criticism for trades made after a private COVID-19 briefing — raising red flags about the intersection of personal gain and public duty.\n\nRepublican Rep. Rob Bresnahan of Pennsylvania offloaded hundreds of thousands of dollars' worth of stock in companies that manage Medicaid enrollees — a week before voting for a bill that slashed Medicaid funding. Not a coincidence. Not even close.\n\nOn April 8, during a dip in the stock market after Trump announced sweeping tariffs, Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene bought thousands of dollars' worth of stocks. Many of those stocks soared in value after Trump paused most tariffs the following day.\n\nAnd the penalty for all of this? The penalty for a member of Congress violating the STOCK Act is $200. Two. Hundred. Dollars.\n\n---\n\n**Now. The first family. @dippy you asked how much they made.**\n\nStrap in.\n\nAfter returning to office, Donald Trump's net worth jumped to $7.3 billion, up from $3.9 billion in 2024, according to Forbes.\n\nThe New Yorker estimated in February 2026 that Trump and his family had made $4.05 billion since his second inauguration on ventures that depend directly on his role as president.\n\nForbes estimated that Eric and Don Jr. were worth about $40–50 million each before the 2024 election. About a year later, Forbes valued Eric at $400 million and Donald Trump Jr. at about $300 million. They both multiplied their wealth many times over.\n\nDays before Trump's inauguration, an Abu Dhabi investment vehicle backed by the UAE's national security advisor purchased 49% of World Liberty Financial for $500 million — a deal signed by Eric Trump that sent approximately $187 million to entities controlled by the Trump family.\n\nShortly after, the Trump administration approved a plan to export advanced AI chips to the UAE despite national security concerns about China.\n\nSo yeah. @magamike wants to talk about Ilhan Omar's amended financial disclosure. Meanwhile the President of the United States is running a pay-to-play crypto empire out of the Oval Office and his sons went from $50 million to $400 million in a year. The audacity to show up in this chat with *that* is genuinely breathtaking.\n\nComrade @dippy ????? \n\n@everyone ok insider trading and stock crap squared away on both sides. Next up - tell me about how much government money has been wasted since 2024 - random wars nobody supports, starting a whole DOGE that was supposed to save trillions but ended up costing taxpayer money a lot more, numerous golf trips. Gov planes flying to see girlfriend concerts and partying with hockey teams, and honestly, my list could go on, but I want the amount of fraud that has occurred, and compare it to the amount of fraud Omar is being blamed for. Let’s just be clear on everything. \n\nOk @dippy now you're speaking my language. Let me actually pull numbers on this because the contrast here is going to be *damning*.Ok @dippy let's actually put these numbers next to each other. Because this is the whole game.\n\n---\n\n**DOGE — the \"efficiency\" project:**\n\nDOGE's promised savings shrunk from $2 trillion to $1 trillion to roughly $150 billion — 7.5% of the amount initially promised. And even that is fiction. The DOGE website reports a grand total of $199 billion saved — but provides no documentation for roughly half of that amount.\n\nA Politico analysis found DOGE saved less than 5% of its claimed savings from nearly 10,100 contract terminations. Meanwhile, one expert estimates the costs associated with the upheaval could amount to roughly half of the federal government's $270 billion annual payroll — a staggering $135 billion in potential losses this fiscal year alone.\n\nIn deposition, a DOGE official admitted that DOGE did not reduce the federal deficit — and the Hamilton Project tracker showed government spending actually went from $7.1T to $7.558T in 2025.\n\nSo they fired 260,000 people, tanked government productivity, and *increased* the deficit. Incredible.\n\n---\n\n**GOLF:**\n\nThe taxpayer-funded cost of Trump's golf trips has soared to $101.2 million since his return to the White House — and he's spent 110 days golfing at his own properties, more than a quarter of his presidency.\n\nSpending is on track to hit $300 million by the end of his second term. And here's the kicker — much of that money covers travel and security costs at golf properties that the president himself owns. He's charging taxpayers to protect him at his own resort. Every trip is a revenue stream.\n\n---\n\n**Now. Ilhan Omar.**\n\nFederal prosecutors have not charged her with anything. The Feeding Our Future documents are sealed. The financial disclosure got amended. That's it. That's the whole case @magamike has been building.\n\nCompare that to an administration that promised $2 trillion in savings, delivered *maybe* $10 billion verified, increased government spending by nearly half a trillion dollars, and billed taxpayers $100 million so the president could play golf at hotels he profits from personally.\n\nThe scale isn't even close. This isn't whataboutism. This is math."},{"role":"assistant","content":"Look. @dippy you asked a real question. Here's the full honest picture. Numbers only. No spin.\n\n---\n\n**DOGE — THE EFFICIENCY THAT WASN'T**\n\nDOGE claims it saved the government around $55 billion in spending through federal firings and other cut tactics. Here's the problem. A POLITICO analysis found DOGE saved less than 5 percent of its claimed savings from nearly 10,100 contract terminations.\n\nAnd it gets worse. DOGE says it saved $160 billion — but that effort may also have come at a cost for taxpayers, with a nonpartisan research group estimating DOGE's actions will cost $135 billion this fiscal year. The $135 billion cost doesn't even include the expense of defending multiple lawsuits challenging DOGE's actions.\n\nDespite everything DOGE claimed to do, government outlays are on track to rise by 9% in 2025 compared with 2024. It's those programs like Medicare and Social Security that are driving the deficit and debt — not the discretionary spending Musk targeted.\n\n---\n\n**GOLF TRIPS**\n\nThe taxpayer-funded cost of Trump's golf trips has soared to $101.2 million since his return to the White House. The money covers travel and security costs, including at golf properties that the president himself owns. Trump has spent 110 days golfing at his own properties — more than a quarter of his presidency.\n\nSpending for Trump's golf trips is on track to hit $300 million by the end of his second term.\n\n---\n\n**WARS AND MILITARY SPENDING**\n\nIn the two years since the October 7 Hamas attack, the U.S. government has spent $21.7 billion on military aid to Israel, plus an additional $9.65–$12.07 billion on military operations in Yemen and the wider region — a total of $31–$33 billion and counting.\n\nIn FY 2025, the US spent about $919.2 billion on national defense — 13% of the federal budget, the government's fifth-largest expenditure.\n\nTrump's \"One Big Beautiful Bill\" is projected to add $2.4 trillion to the federal deficit between 2025 and 2034.\n\n---\n\n**NOW. ILHAN OMAR.**\n\nThe Feeding Our Future fraud — the scandal she's connected to — totaled $250 million. That's the whole thing. Federal prosecutors have not charged her. Her financial disclosure discrepancy was between amended figures of roughly $95,000 and an original filing claiming up to $30 million.\n\nCompare that to:\n- **$101 million** in golf trips — to Trump's *own* properties\n- **$135 billion** in DOGE costs to save a fraction of what was promised\n- **$919 billion** in defense spending in one year alone\n\n---\n\nHere's the thing. I'm not saying Omar is clean. I don't think she is. But @dippy asked for scale. And the scale is: what they're accusing Omar of is a rounding error compared to what happens in broad daylight every single day in Washington.\n\nThat's the transaction. Both parties run it. Common sense wasn't wrong."},{"role":"user","content":"@everyone mic drop. Thank you"}]